Comments on: Lithium-Ion Batteries for Power Storage on the Grid http://greenlight.greentechmedia.com/2008/07/08/lithium-ion-batteries-for-power-storage-on-the-grid-364/ Green Light is the traffic cop at the intersection of green technology, business and policy. We cover the highs and lows of the greentech market, providing news, commentary and analysis on the companies and personalities–-winners and losers alike-–driving its growth and evolution. Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:52:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Bookmarks about Grid http://greenlight.greentechmedia.com/2008/07/08/lithium-ion-batteries-for-power-storage-on-the-grid-364/#comment-895 Bookmarks about Grid Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:30:18 +0000 http://greenlight.greentechmedia.com/?p=364#comment-895 [...] - bookmarked by 3 members originally found by schaapy on July 19, 2008 Lithium ion batteries for power storage on the grid [...] [...] - bookmarked by 3 members originally found by schaapy on July 19, 2008 Lithium ion batteries for power storage on the grid [...]

]]> By: drivin98 http://greenlight.greentechmedia.com/2008/07/08/lithium-ion-batteries-for-power-storage-on-the-grid-364/#comment-635 drivin98 Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:52:31 +0000 http://greenlight.greentechmedia.com/?p=364#comment-635 Pump-up hydro can't be put into a fuel stop to give a fast fill up to electric cars. This thing is useful for lots of apps. Pump-up hydro can’t be put into a fuel stop to give a fast fill up to electric cars. This thing is useful for lots of apps.

]]> By: understanding the psychology of behavior » Blog Archive » Boone’s Oil Plan http://greenlight.greentechmedia.com/2008/07/08/lithium-ion-batteries-for-power-storage-on-the-grid-364/#comment-619 understanding the psychology of behavior » Blog Archive » Boone’s Oil Plan Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:05:39 +0000 http://greenlight.greentechmedia.com/?p=364#comment-619 [...] The automotive world will see a transition, and it is obviously seeing it. But the transition will first come with electric cars. There are batteries in play that can handle this, due to new developments in the battery space, and companies ready to take advantage. (article) [...] [...] The automotive world will see a transition, and it is obviously seeing it. But the transition will first come with electric cars. There are batteries in play that can handle this, due to new developments in the battery space, and companies ready to take advantage. (article) [...]

]]> By: Steve Pluvia http://greenlight.greentechmedia.com/2008/07/08/lithium-ion-batteries-for-power-storage-on-the-grid-364/#comment-618 Steve Pluvia Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:58:08 +0000 http://greenlight.greentechmedia.com/?p=364#comment-618 Exactly Bob. Pumped hydro is simple, cheap and it works. No need to re-invent the wheel. Exactly Bob. Pumped hydro is simple, cheap and it works. No need to re-invent the wheel.

]]> By: Bob Wallace http://greenlight.greentechmedia.com/2008/07/08/lithium-ion-batteries-for-power-storage-on-the-grid-364/#comment-611 Bob Wallace Wed, 09 Jul 2008 05:09:26 +0000 http://greenlight.greentechmedia.com/?p=364#comment-611 And don't overlook pump-up hydro. Elevation differential, water, and a pump/turbine. (Got a flooded mine in your area?) Nothing new to invent here. Around 300 sites in operation today. And don’t overlook pump-up hydro.

Elevation differential, water, and a pump/turbine. (Got a flooded mine in your area?)

Nothing new to invent here. Around 300 sites in operation today.

]]> By: Cdog http://greenlight.greentechmedia.com/2008/07/08/lithium-ion-batteries-for-power-storage-on-the-grid-364/#comment-607 Cdog Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:44:40 +0000 http://greenlight.greentechmedia.com/?p=364#comment-607 Don't forget Sodium-Sullfur batteries - originally developed by Ford, but perfected by the Japanese. They've been using these successfully for 12+ years for these exact applications, and are just hitting the U.S. Don’t forget Sodium-Sullfur batteries - originally developed by Ford, but perfected by the Japanese. They’ve been using these successfully for 12+ years for these exact applications, and are just hitting the U.S.

]]> By: greensolutions http://greenlight.greentechmedia.com/2008/07/08/lithium-ion-batteries-for-power-storage-on-the-grid-364/#comment-604 greensolutions Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:30:19 +0000 http://greenlight.greentechmedia.com/?p=364#comment-604 I would think it would be more wise to use the limited amount of lithium on the planet for mobile applications. A stationary battery doesn't need to have high gravimetric density, though high volumetric density reduces the cost of the structure they're housed in. I'd place my bets on vanadium flow for wind, PV and other non-thermal technologies and molten salt for CSP stations. I haven't done much research on flywheels and ice, though....maybe they're promising too. "May the best novel concept win." I'm hoping several methods are successful, depending on the application. The best storage technology for a given application is highly dependent upon the scale, type of energy involved and usage patterns. Couple cost effective energy storage strategies with conservation, efficiency and smart grid management and the argument that renewables are too fickle for prime time flies right out the window. I would think it would be more wise to use the limited amount of lithium on the planet for mobile applications. A stationary battery doesn’t need to have high gravimetric density, though high volumetric density reduces the cost of the structure they’re housed in. I’d place my bets on vanadium flow for wind, PV and other non-thermal technologies and molten salt for CSP stations. I haven’t done much research on flywheels and ice, though….maybe they’re promising too.

“May the best novel concept win.”

I’m hoping several methods are successful, depending on the application. The best storage technology for a given application is highly dependent upon the scale, type of energy involved and usage patterns. Couple cost effective energy storage strategies with conservation, efficiency and smart grid management and the argument that renewables are too fickle for prime time flies right out the window.

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